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Bottled water and its link to tooth decay

Some dentists say kids should drink tap water and not bottled water because bottled water is not fluoridated.
dentalproductsreport.com
2012-03
Wed, 2012-03-21 10:37

Favoring bottled water over tap could be causing children to get more cavities.

When the dentist had to fill six cavities in her 4-year-old son’s baby teeth, Amy Wilson was shocked.

The New York City mother of three scanned her family’s habits, trying to figure how Seamus, now 7, could have developed such tooth decay so early.

“We said, 'No, no, no, they don’t have candy or gum or soda regularly,'” recalled Wilson, 42, an actress, author and blogger.

But then, at a party, a dentist friend posed a surprising question: Did Wilson’s children drink bottled water?

“I had a dentist tell me to make sure to give my kids tap water and not bottled because the latter isn’t fluoridated, and he’s seeing kids with more cavities,” said Wilson. 

To read the full article, click here.

 

It turns out that many dentists and government health officials suspect that the practice of skipping tap water in favor of bottled water may be contributing to rising rates of tooth decay in young children.

Courtesy Amy Wilson

Amy Wilson, 42, of New York, was shocked when Seamus, far left, had to have six cavities filled at age 4. She now makes sure Seamus, now 7, as well as Connor, 9, and Maggie, 4, drink fluoridated filtered water from the family tap.

“You should brush twice a day with a fluoride toothpaste, see the dentist twice a year for fluoride treatment and get fluoride in your drinking water,” said Jonathan D. Shenkin, spokesman on pediatric dentistry for the American Dental Association. “If you’re not getting it in your drinking water, that takes out a component of the effectiveness of that triad.”

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, too, warns that “bottled water may not have a sufficient amount of fluoride, which is important for preventing tooth decay and promoting oral health.”

No question, many kids do drink bottled water. One recent study in the Archives of Pediatrics found that about 45 percent of parents give their kids only or primarily bottled water, while another in the journal Pediatric Dentistry found that nearly 70 percent of parents gave bottled water either alone or with tap water.

More than 65 percent of parents using bottled water did not know what levels of fluoride it contained, that study showed.

 

At the same time, tooth decay appears to affect a huge swath of the nation’s young children. About 42 percent of children ages 2 to 11 in the U.S. had cavities in their baby teeth, according to a 2007 prevalence study, the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The study tracked rising decay from 1988 to 1994 and then from 1999 to 2004, when it was up overall about 2 percent. The data showed that decay affected not only more than half of children at the lowest income levels, but also nearly a third of kids in higher-income families.

That supports additional research by Bruce Dye, a dental epidemiology officer with the National Center for Health Statistics, which actually found that boys in higher income families had the greatest prevalence of decay. Whether that's because it's harder to get those boys to brush, or because parents in higher-income families are more likely to provide more beverages, such as juice, sports drinks -- and bottled water -- isn't clear.

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“I look at that as choices being made,” Dye said. “Gatorade or bottled water could be part of that.”

To be clear, there are no studies to date that document a clear tie between bottled water and tooth decay. And the International Bottled Water Association, an industry trade group, notes that at least 20 of its roughly 125 bottlers do offer fluoridated bottled water -- and that water is a healthier option than other beverages.

“In fact, bottled water does not contain ingredients that cause cavities, such as sugar,” the IBWA said in a statement responding to a recent New York Times story about a rise in dental surgeries among tots.

But Shenkin and other dental experts say it’s actually not clear whether there’s a link between bottled water and tooth decay, mostly because the issue hasn’t been studied because of a lack of funding for oral health research. 

They contend that the continued popularity of bottled water in the U.S. -- about 8.4 million gallons a year or about 27.6 gallons per person in 2009, according to the Beverage Marketing Corp. -- fuels concern about kids’ consumption.

“I look at it as parents trying to do the right thing, trying to be healthy, but being healthy doesn’t prevent [cavities],” said Dye.

Fluoridation of public water supplies has been hailed as a public health victory, but in recent years, many U.S. communities have voted to stop adding it to local drinking water. Fluoride protects against tooth decay, but it also can cause tooth discoloration and bone weakness if ingested at too high levels for many years, experts agree. 

Federal regulators last year proposed setting recommended fluoride levels in drinking water to the lowest end of a range that permits between 0.7 and 1.2 milligrams of fluoride per liter of water, but officials are still wrestling with finding a balance between preventing decay without harming teeth and health.

Meanwhile, inadequate brushing habits, delayed dental visits, poor choices of foods and snacks and bad beverage selection -- in addition to spotty consumption of fluoride -- all likely contribute to tooth decay, Dye said.

No matter what causes it, the problem with decay that starts early is that it often gets worse.

“When you have tooth decay in your baby teeth, you will have tooth decay in your permanent teeth,” said Dye.

The problem may be particularly worrisome in minority families, who were three times more likely than others to give their kids only bottled water, usually because of concerns about the safety or taste of their home tap water.

Kids in minority families also are more likely to have tooth decay. The CDC data showed that 55 percent of Mexican-American kids ages 2 to 11 and 43 percent of black children had cavities in their baby teeth. For white youngsters, the figure was about 37 percent.

For all families, the key is to make dental health a priority, Shenkin said. Babies should see a dentist by age 1 and brushing twice a day with a fluoride-containing toothpaste should start at age 2.

“As soon as that first tooth comes through in the mouth, it’s susceptible to decay,” he said. “If you wait until kids are 3 or 4 years of age, it’s already happened.”

For Wilson, who admits tooth brushing is a struggle with kids now aged 4, 7 and 9, awareness has been a big part of changing her family’s habits.

“We live in New York City where the tap water tastes fine,” she said.

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The problem is the dentists are battle against the consiracy nuts who are conviced floride is a secret government plot to poison people. Has anyone simply considered giving your child a REUSABLE container and refilling it every day with tap water? Save you a fortune.

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#1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:13 AM EDT

As the economy has tanked, for families with lower wages, lost jobs, etc., the dentist is one expense that many are forced to eliminate. Even with insurance, co-pays are high and yearly limits on dental care are low, so out of pocket expenses even for seemingly minor dental work and cleaning can be unaffordable for many families. This most likely has something to do with higher statistics of dental decay in children. Also, I am certain that children's diets, and especially sports drinks, sweetened juices and drinks and pop are major contributors to any rise in childhood decay. I am not a proponent of fluoride in the drinking water...I think toothpaste with fluoride (that gets spit out and not ingested) may be helpful, but many studies have shown ingesting fluoride to pose risks for some...even to tooth enamel, and many countries have stopped the practice of adding it to their drinking water.

In my opinion, if we were supposed to have fluoride in our drinking water, God would have put it in there. There are other causes of any statistical rise in pediatric tooth decay.

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#1.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:48 AM EDT

No. The problem is that tap water tastes like bleach.

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#1.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:59 AM EDT

KJR

In my opinion, if we were supposed to have fluoride in our drinking water, God would have put it in there.

or maybe your God would:

provided the cure to TB

stopped babies being born deformed

Stopped children from starving & being abused.

Stopped my wife dying of cancer at 41

Your God also told of "free will", a free will to develop and make our lives better.

Your statement is the same as refusing a sick child medicine.

 

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#1.3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:03 AM EDT

KJR, Flouride is a natural component of most well water and some surface water. It is also found in tea, chicken, sardines, fish, and grape juice. (The link is here.) I owned a house for many years with a well. The water from the well tested at 0.9 milligrams of flouride per liter.

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#1.4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

@ Dale3242:

Strawman arument... the flouride component being added to municipal water supplies by law is generally sodium-flouride and it not found naturally. It being added by a rather capricious (and cynical) choice. It is a toxic waste resulting from, among other things, aluminum production.

One of the chief lobbyists/supporters behind the pseudo-science of the "healthy benefits" of this contamination was in fact Alcoa. Their concern was the liability from the levels of the toxic compound that they dumped into rivers and lakes during WW2 as a consequence of aluminum manufacturing processes (aircraft production).

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#1.5 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

KJR

In my opinion, if we were supposed to have fluoride in our drinking water, God would have put it in there. 

Yeah, just like he would have given us natural immunity to all disease, freedom from hunger and world peace. The world isn't perfect, dummy, and we have to do what we can to improve our lives. 

If there were a god (dream on, oh superstitious one!) he made you stupid, and you haven't done anything to improve that, either.

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#1.6 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:04 AM EDT

This "not naturally occurring" is, in of itself a strawman argument. This is another tinfoil argument against Big Business. Yes, anything in excess is poisonous, including bottle water. No, there are proven health benefits of adding flourine to tap waters in the proper quantities.

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#1.7 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:13 AM EDT

I have lived in areas where we were advised not to let our children drink tap water because the natural flouride was too high. Where I live now (near Phoenix) we are told the water has so much garbage in it that it should not be used for mixing baby formula, which makes me doubt that it is good for anyone. It also tastes awful. In each case the condition of the water was brought to our attention by the children's pediatrition. I would think all pediatritions should be aware of and advise parents of local environmental problems that affect children, I guess we got lucky.

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#1.8 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:21 AM EDT

The right wingnuts have made removing flouride from public water supplies a cause of their own. They have removed it from the water already in about a dozen municipalities (the margest being Tampa/St. Pete.) There is legislation pending in about 20 states and a couple of hundred municipalities to remove it completely.

@DAK,

Wrongo bucko! Sodium fouriude was what was used starting in 1945. Today it is only used on small, often antiquated water systems, mostly rural, accounting for around 9% of flouridation. 28% use sodium flourosilicate and 63% use flourosilisic acid. What causes poorly-informed people such as yourself to make the error is that flouridation is usuelly expressed in "NaF Units" so that everyone is talking about the same levels of flouridation.

Fouride IS found naturally in water. As early as the 1850's scientists had noticed that both a type of blackening of the teeth and an absence of cavities were both directly related to the amount of natural fouride in drinking water. Too much and you got blackening and too little and you got cavities. It wasn't until 1901 when dentistry became an active profession that the eliminatin of certain stains on teeth caused real scientific inquiry, and by 1925 the link between small amounts of flouride in the water and absence of cavities was shown. Fouridation to strengthen the enamel in both baby and adult teeth became a "best practice" by 1950. The flouridation of water was neither capricious nor cynical. It was the result of over 100 years of scientific study and data.

It is the ingestion of flouride that causes it to be incorporated into the enamel. Toothpaste is almost completely ineffective as a replacement for flouridated water. Topical application of flouride by dentists has no supporting data and is considered by most to be a scam except in the case of a certain type of rare enamel deficiency. The pills work well, but are a source of concern in that a child could overdose and get black teeth from taking them inappropriately.

NO country has stopped using flouride in water. You made that one up. In fact, many in other countries are faintly amused at the amount of attention that Americans pay to their teeth but still consider flouridation as a conspiracy theory. And ultimately we are talking, not about pediatric tooth decay so much as adult tooth decay. Pediatric tooth decay is just an early warning sign of what is coming to adult teeth.

But always remember --- behind every conspiracy theory is at least one real nut!

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#1.9 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

No, the government is not trying to poison anybody. It is not poisoning when 'lack of federal oversight' will not be including dental coverage in the new national health care system.

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#1.10 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

and I suppose Alcoa was simply being magnanimous and looking out for everyone's best interests?

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#1.11 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

I really doubt that the American Dental Association is afraid of conspiracy theorists.

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#1.12 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:53 AM EDT

Teeth acquire fluoride in two ways, one from the surface of the tooth its self, through small tubes in the enamel where fluoride enters (topically) or internally via water and other sources. However here is the key note on water and other "swallowed" sources":

"Swallowed fluorides do not add fluoride to the teeth in someone older than age 16"

Swallowed fluorides help in children when the teeth are still in the jaw but not afterward.

A note on the conspiracy of fluoride poisoning, it typically takes 10 g of fluoride to cause poisoning and death, the average amount of toothpaste used to brush contains 0.3 mg of fluoride, so you would have to consume around 33,000 times the mount of tooth paste used in a daily brush to poison yourself.

#1.13 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

Article link, with some of content copied below.

http://www.mbschachter.com/dangers_of_fluoride_and_fluorida.htm

From 1990 to 1992, the Journal of the American Medical Association published three separate articles linking increased hip fracture rates to fluoride in the water. In the March 22, 1990 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, Mayo Clinic researchers reported that fluoride treatment of osteoporosis increased hip fracture rate and bone fragility.

A study by Procter and Gamble showed that as little as half the amount of fluoride used to fluoridate public water supplies resulted in a sizable and significant increase in genetic damage. Epidemiology research in the mid-1970's by the late Dr. Dean Burk, head of the cytochemistry division of the National Cancer Institute, indicated that 10,000 or more fluoridation-linked cancer deaths occur yearly in the United States. In 1989, the ability of fluoride to transform normal cells into cancer cells was confirmed by Argonne National Laboratories. Results released in 1989 of studies carried out at the prestigious Batelle Research Institute showed that fluoride was linked to a rare form of liver cancer in mice, oral tumors and cancers in rats, and bone cancer in male rats. Since 1991, the New Jersey Department of Health found that the incidence of osteosarcoma, a type of bone cancer, was far higher in young men exposed to fluoridated water as compared to those who were not.

In addition to the well documented toxic effects of fluoride, fluoride even at dosages of 1 part per million, found in artificially fluoridated water, can inhibit enzyme systems, damage the immune system, contribute to calcification of soft tissues, worsen arthritis and, of course, cause dental fluorosis in children. These are unsightly white, yellow or brown spots that are found in teeth exposed to fluoride during childhood. In 1993, the Subcommittee on Health Effects of Ingested Fluoride of the National Research Council admitted that 8% to 51% and sometimes up to 80% of the children living in fluoridated areas have dental fluorosis. Malnourished people, particularly children, usually targeted for fluoridation, are at greater risks to experience fluoride's harmful effects.

Surprisingly, the most recent studies do not even show that water fluoridation is effective in reducing tooth decay. In the largest U.S. study of fluoridation and tooth decay, United States Public Health Service dental records of over 39,000 school children, ages 5-17, from 84 areas around the United States showed that the number of decayed, missing, and filled teeth per child was virtually the same in fluoridated and non-fluoridated areas. Dr. John Colquhoun, former Chief Dental Officer of the Department of Health for Auckland, New Zealand, investigated tooth decay statistics from about 60,000 12 to 13 year old children and showed that fluoridation had no significant effect on tooth decay rate.

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#1.14 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

@Chris

("NO country has stopped using flouride in water. You made that one up.")

Wikipedia article link (with sources of information listed), with quote from article copied below...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoridation_by_country

Fluoridation by country

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Contents

Human or Artificial Fluoridation of water, salt, and milk varies from country to country. Water fluoridation has been introduced to varying degrees in many countries, including Australia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Ireland, Malaysia, the U.S., and Vietnam,[1] and is used by 5.7% of people worldwide.[2] Continental Europe largely does not fluoridate water, although some of its countries fluoridate salt; locations have discontinued water fluoridation in Germany, the Netherlands, and other countries.[2] Although health and dental organizations support water fluoridation in the countries that practice water fluoridation,[3] there has been considerable opposition to water fluoridation whenever it is proposed.

Germany

Drinking water is not fluoridated in any part of Germany. The GDR used to fluoridate drinking water, but it was discontinued after the German reunification.[1

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#1.15 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:28 PM EDT

And those who do get fluorosis loose all of their teeth by the time they are in their '20's.

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#1.16 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

Dentists recommending tap water for kids should be aware that this is a bad idea in Pavillion Wyoming, Dimock PA, Weld and Garfield county CO due to water contamination from facking. Funny how the right-wing nuts think flouride is a conspiracy but being able to light water from you tap on fire is not out of the ordinary or caused by fracking.

#1.17 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

Dr. Colquhoun and other researchers failed to comment that the main protective purpose of fluoridation is the protection of teeth in children who have bad oral hygiene when it comes to brushing.

Epidemiologically speaking, his research was found wanting. He and others were comparing children in areas with and without fluoridation which is not a good comparison, nor is it a scientifically sound. This is because the majority of these children were using toothpaste and this was their main source of fluoride. Not from water. Tooth paste contains the same amount of fluoride in one hit as 3 litres of water.

In other words they should have been comparing those who do not brush their teeth.

#1.18 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

If God had meant drinking water to be pure, you could drink the oceans!

#1.19 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:00 PM EDT
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Sorry, I'm not buying it. I believe fluoride to be effective when applied topically, but dangerous when ingested. We've always used bottled water and none of my kids (oldest are adults) have ever had a single cavity. I, on the other hand, had a number of cavities as a child, and I did grow up drinking fluoridated tap water. Cavities are not caused so much by particular foods as they are by lack of good dental hygiene, a factor I notice was not questioned by the mother at the beginning of the article.

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:20 AM EDT

One of the first uses of fluoride was in Nazi death camps to help keep prisoners subdued and less likely to resist.

Metal manufacturers produce fluoride in bulk. It's complete industrial waste in the form they produce it in, and it's nothing like the natural fluoride found in water. These companies are actually able to sell this product to state municipalities so they can dump their toxic waste into our water supply. Whoever, thought up that idea is a genius.

Fluoride also bio-accumulates in crops so there is a high prevalence of it in crops as well. People are being absolutely over fluoridated.

Could our government be taking ques from Hitler to help keep our population subdued? No... nothing to see here people... drink your fluoride... your government is here to protect you... consume your industrial waste...

  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:45 AM EDT

Oh please, like kids are really drinking SO much bottled water. I for one would trade the consequences of drinking "too much" bottled water, for the consequences [and the reality] of them drinking sodas and other sugared drinks all day to the tune of 1,000+ calories from corn syrup. Give me a break. Big government ... drinking too much soda ... never mind, you're drinking too much bottled water. This nanny state/media is out of control.

  • 1 vote
#2.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:12 PM EDT
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We have a well, my son is 11, we never gave him any fluoride supplements and he doesn't have a single cavity. He used flouride toothpaste from a young age, and we always make sure his teeth are brushed at least twice a day.

Because what this article leaves out is that there are also a whole lot of parents who are not taking adequate care of their young children's teeth and making sure that they are being brushed often enough.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/health/rise-in-preschool-cavities-prompts-anesthesia-use.html?pagewanted=all

  • 6 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:28 AM EDT

we never gave him any fluoride supplements and he doesn't have a single cavity. He used flouride toothpaste from a young age,

lol, contradict yourself much? Fluoride toothpaste IS a supplement.

  • 1 vote
#3.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

Chris - LOL - it is not an INGESTED supplement. *rolls eyes*.

There is big difference between topical fluoride applications and the INGESTION of fluoride. You're not as smart as you seem to think you are.

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#3.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

I've raised four kids, the oldest is 20 and the youngest 13. None of them have ever had cavities and our water has never been fluoridated. Floride is not the solution to healthy teeth. Good dental habits and a healthy diet are the things that determine whether a kid will develop cavities or not.

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

Chris - LOL - it is not an INGESTED supplement. *rolls eyes*.

LOL - and you think you don't INGEST ingredients from your toothpaste? *twirls penis*

  • 3 votes
#3.4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:34 AM EDT

Chris, maybe if you stopped playing with your whanker so much, you'd learn how to spit instead of swallowing. *rolls eyes again*

  • 9 votes
#3.5 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:41 AM EDT

Chris, did you notice on the toothpaste container it says not to swallow. Hmm.... I wonder why?

If it's not safe to swallow it's not going in my mouth. Even some safe things are not going there...

  • 2 votes
#3.6 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

I encourage anyone who wishes to be an expert in toothpastes, to add to their samples and try the various brands sold at health food stores, before coming to the final expert opinion.

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#3.7 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:02 PM EDT
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Reply#4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

That's the most intelligent thing you've posted all day.

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#4.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:49 AM EDT
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How about getting a reusable container, like a Nalgene and refilling it. Bottled water is a joke and the American public is buying it and trashing the planet with plastic. As for kids with cavities, I doubt it's unfloridated water. Candy, sugar, soda, and all the other junk kids ingest, thats cavity causing...

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Reply#5 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:45 AM EDT
 

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Reply#6 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:45 AM EDT
 

This is just another attempt to brainwash everybody that reads something and buys it without doing their own investigation to discover the truth. Floride is a neurotoxin. I never allowed my kids to use floridated water or toothpaste, sugar and sugary treats were seldom used and they were taught brushing and flossing as soon as they had teeth. They were 14 and 16 when they had their first cavities. Guess what, they were eating all the junk food they could get and were getting to that point where Mom is old fashioned, etc.

Floride was added to the food of prisoners during World War II to make them docile and stupid. If you are dumb enough to buy the trash that is in this article, perhaps it is too late for you, already. Unless you were just dumped here from another planet and are not aware of the, so-called, research that has been surfacing since the mid-1950s, that is backed by special interest groups to sway the unaware public, it is time to do your own sleuthing to discover who is promoting this drivel and make an informed dicision form your efforts.

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:16 AM EDT

Siddmartha, Flouride is a natural component of most well water. It is also found in tea, chicken, sardines, fish, and grape juice. (The link is here.) Flouridation began after studies showed that people living in areas with natural flouride in their drinking water had far fewer cavities.

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#7.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:22 AM EDT

Fine, Dale, if it's found in all those places, I guess there's no need to fluoridate our water. The government has no business doing anything to water besides making sure it's potable. If people want to take fluoride supplements, that should be their CHOICE - not something forced onto people by a Big Brother.

  • 1 vote
#7.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:26 AM EDT

@ Dale3242: How many different times are you going to post this as a reply? Each time I going to feel compelled the B-slap your ridiculous claims...

Strawman arument... the flouride component being added to municipal water supplies by law is generally sodium-flouride and it not found naturally. It being added by a rather capricious (and cynical) choice. It is a toxic waste resulting from, among other things, aluminum production.

One of the chief lobbyists/supporters behind the pseudo-science of the "healthy benefits" of this contamination was in fact Alcoa. Their concern was the liability from the levels of the toxic compound that they dumped into rivers and lakes during WW2 as a consequence of aluminum manufacturing processes (aircraft production).

  • 3 votes
#7.3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:48 AM EDT

I don't understand your objection to sodium fluoride. Add it to water and you get sodium cations and fluoride anions; both occur naturally.

#7.4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:36 PM EDT
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Anecdotal evidence isn't relevant in this case. It's a simple fact that some people get cavities more easily than others. There is also strong evidence that fluoride helps against cavities.

Nothing fights cavities better than good dental hygiene and staying away from sugary foods and drinks.

Fluoride-laced water might help lessen tooth decay for those that aren't taking the best care of their teeth, but should never be used as a substitute for good dental hygiene.

  • 1 vote
Reply#8 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:24 AM EDT

And the simple fact that some people get cavities more easily than other people do should therefore NOT be used as an excuse to adulterate EVERYONE'S water.

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#8.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:28 AM EDT
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So bogus. My kids didn't drink fluoridated water and they didn't have a lot
of cavities. In fact only one of them had one cavity. They brushed and flossed
their teeth, didn't have milk or juice before bed and had sealants put on their
permanent molars. Even if drinking fluoride is a benefit, and I don't believe
it is, it would only be useful while teeth are forming. Once all the permanent
teeth are in the fluoride would no longer be beneficial. So basically the
majority of the population that drinks fluoridated water is being medicated for
no reason.

Reply#9 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

muri - that's what my dentist told me as well. That fluoride supplements were really only effective when the teeth were forming. We should not be accepting our water being adulterated in this way. It's ridiculous.

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#9.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:55 AM EDT
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JoNel Aleccia = statist tool

Reply#10 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:53 AM EDT
 

From the International Bottled Water Association: This article notes that the causes of increased dental problems in young children vary, from a simple lack of brushing to too many sugary foods and beverages. Unfortunately, the article also incorrectly states that drinking bottled water instead of ‘fluoridated tap water’ can contribute to tooth decay. This statement is both inaccurate and misleading. There is absolutely no correlation between consumption of bottled water and an increase in cavities. In fact, bottled water does not contain ingredients that cause cavities, such as sugar.

For consumers who want fluoride in their drinking water and wish to choose bottled water, approximately 20 IBWA member companies make clearly-labeled fluoridated bottled water products under stringent FDA guidelines. For a complete list of these brands, which are available in many markets across the country, please visit IBWA’s website ().

There are many sources of fluoride, and the amount of fluoride exposure varies greatly by community and individual. Approximately two-thirds of communities in the Unites States fluoridate their public drinking water supplies. Those who live in communities that do not fluoridate public drinking water, who get their drinking water from wells, or who filter their fluoridated tap water will not be getting fluoride in their drinking water. Fluoride is present in many foods and beverages and almost all toothpaste contains fluoride. Too much exposure to fluoride can lead to a condition called fluorosis, which results in stains to the teeth. Consumers should therefore look at how much fluoride they are receiving as part of an overall diet and should contact their health-care provider or dental-care provider for their recommendation.

As a packaged food product, comprehensively regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), bottled water labels must contain the name and place of business of the bottler, packer or distributor, and virtually all bottled water products provide a telephone number. With this information, consumers may contact the bottled water company directly to obtain information about the product. Bottled water companies must also follow fluoride labeling guidelines should fluoride be added to the product or be present at a naturally occurring level as set for the by FDA regulation (21C.F.R. §165.110(b)(4)(ii)(A-D)).”

 
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Reply#11 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:56 AM EDT
 

No soda, candy or gum regularly? That's great, but it doesn't rule out fruit juice, cereal, and all the other sugary processed foods that people feed their kids. Sorry, but it isn't the water.

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Reply#12 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:57 AM EDT
 

Cavities occur primarily due to poor diet, not poor dental care. Though not recommended, there are those who do not brush or floss at all who do not develop cavities. Heavy consumption of white bread will also cause cavities to form.

The human body is designed to resist and heal itself from bacterial invasions, and cavities are no exception. Wild animals don't have endemic cavity problems like people do and they don't brush or floss. Did our prehistoric ancestors, who never brushed, constantly lose all their teeth to cavities by age 10? Obviously not, as we wouldn't be here if they did, so what has changed?

Answer: Our diets. Americans eating highly processed foods is the cause of a great many of physical ills, including cavities.

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Reply#13 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:04 AM EDT
 

Filling a 4 year-old's cavities (assuming he's not in pain) is nonsense. They're going to fall out in 18-24 mos.

Reply#14 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:13 AM EDT

Only the front teeth. They will have their molars for years. Molars don't start falling out until kids are around 9 and up.

#14.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:27 PM EDT
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Flouride does not help prevent tooth decay.

The German's put flouride in the water of their concentration camps.

Big brother is lying to you. Stop drinking the flouride and watch yourself change for the better.

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Reply#15 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:18 AM EDT

You are a NITWIT. Studies in the early 50s, proved that fluoride prevented cavities. In areas of Utah, in the 50s, it was discovered that children living there, had NO cavities. It was disclosed that the drinking water in those Utah towns, had high concentrations of fluoride. I have just answered all concerns on this thread.

#15.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:41 AM EDT

@Smukers

Studies sponsored by Alcoa Aluminum - a primary source for fluorine related toxic waste.

Coicidence? I think not...

#15.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:46 AM EDT
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Isn't it kinda odd that when looking at humanoid skulls from thousands (or millions) of years ago there is virtually no tooth decay? They often are worn down, but cavities just didn't seem to exist? Our ancestors did not floridate their water, or brush with toothpaste.

There are legitimate concerns about the safety of floride, especially, the manufactured stuff they call floride. I've little doubt this article is pushed by those who benefit from the use of floride trying to close the barn door before the horses get out and folks realizing that maybe floride is just another man made substance that we're all exposed far too much to.

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Reply#16 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

@ lunatoo- Refined sugar is a relatively new addition to the human diet. That is why cavities do not exist in skulls of humans going back thousands of years ago and earlier.

#16.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:37 AM EDT
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Flouride does seem to be good for teeth... so brush with it. Why do people need to ingest it? Do people drink mouthwash? Should Listerine be put in the water supply too? Flouride wasn't put in the water supply to help your teeth. The "flouride" is a bunch of industrial waste that was dangerous to dump in concentrated levels, so they decided to dilute it instead and poison everyone just a little by adding it to the water supply. After Fukushima, the govt. responded not by warning people, but by raising the "acceptable" level of radiation. These things happen... I feel sorry for those who've been brainwashed into thinking that questioning authority amounts to being a "whacko;" You are so pathetic.

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Reply#17 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:25 AM EDT
 

Water does not cause tooth decay; sugar from bottled juices is the culprit. This article is misleading and is really an argument for augmenting water with fluoride, which is not a bad thing, just call it for what it is.

Reply#18 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:29 AM EDT
 

Despite the misleading, sensationalized headline there is nothing wrong with bottled water. The problem is lack of knowledge about flouride. If your tap water does not have an adequate amount or you don't use it then you should be using a flouride supplement. A little education, check with your water supplier and pediatrition and problem solved.

Reply#19 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:31 AM EDT
 

The New York City mother of three scanned her family’s habits, trying to figure how Seamus, now 7, could have developed such tooth decay so early.

Seamus? This poor kid will be ridiculed his entire life. Everyone will be calling him semen. The kids will be saying things like, "Here comes semen."

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Reply#20 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

Seamus? This poor kid will be ridiculed his entire life. Everyone will be calling him semen. The kids will be saying things like, "Here comes semen."

You do realize the name is pronounced 'Shay-mus', right...? Bet you have the same difficulty with Aisling, Roisin and Siobhan.

#20.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:07 PM EDT
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